And this is one of the reasons I waffle between disengaging from American politics and going to war against the stupid that has taken over this country. Disengaging is a virtual impossibility because I have spent almost 35 years engaging in politics and issues and discussions and all of it. It’s like asking a tiger to change its stripes.
So, this morning my wife told me she needed my help responding to somebody on her Facebook page. I went and looked and couldn’t help myself. She posted a picture of a woman holding a sign saying “Without Immigration Trump Would Have No Wives.” (Side note — this is an example of alternative facts from the left — one of Trump’s wives was not an immigrant.)
Years ago, when our kids were little, we had a neighbor with a son who was the same age as my oldest son. About 15 years ago, they moved to North Carolina, but through Facebook, my wife stayed in touch with them and that son has “friended” her on Facebook. He responded to her post. (From here on out, to protect the identity of the young (he’s 22) and the confused, he will be referred to as “Young Dude” and I’ll play the role of “Old Man.”
Young Dude: But she went through the process legally to become a rightful citizen didn’t she? 🤔 trump doesn’t have an issue with immigrants he has an issue with illegal immigrants as so should every law abiding tax paying citizen
My wife accurately pointed out that those being stopped at airports are here legally. He then quibbled over the details of what a green card means and my wife had a few comments back and forth with him. His last comment before my wife asked me to chime in was this.
Young Dude: As far as I remember he [Young Dude is referring to the Orlando night club shooter] was not born here and he had only had his citizenship for about 5-7 years and and if you look all the mass shootings in the last couple of years about 90% of them were done by muslims with green cards or had just gotten there citizenship and what kinda a coincidence was Canada just said they would take in any Muslim refugees that America denies well there was a shooting at a mosque in Canada but a couple days ago and the shooters were green card muslims I mean people gotta open there eyes
Old Man: Mateen was born in New York. He was a citizen of the US his entire life. The suggestion that 90% of the mass shootings in the US are committed by Muslims is laughable.
Young Dude: It’s true, San bern, boston, pulse night club, can you name any more that weren’t from Muslim or eastern country origin🤔and oh my bad I messed up one thing
Young Dude: That have happened in the past 5-7 years
Young Dude: What about when Obama put a hold on Iraq refugees coming into the country for 6 months no uproar there?
Old Man: South Carolina, Planned Parenthood in Colorado, theater shooting in Colorado to name only a few. Here’s an idea google “mass shootings in US since 2010”. You got more than one thing wrong. Muslim mass shootings are a drop in the bucket.
Young Dude: Well I’m running short on time so to clear everything up I support the Muslim ban and if you don’t like it de-friend me on fb cuz I’m going through it anyways
Old Man: in other words, I don’t know what I’m talking about but I know what I think.
Young Dude: Excuse me? I don’t know who the fuck you are but I really do have to go got my son to take care of he just got up
Old Man: Another thing you got wrong. Obama didn’t ban all Iraqis and what he did was in response to a specific threat the Administration had received. Comparing the two is disingenuous.
Old Man: one more thing. I don’t know where you got your info regarding the shooters at the Canadian mosque were “green card muslims” but that wasn’t accurate either. There was apparently only one shooter and he was a Quebec native and there are no reports yet that he was Muslim. Is there a point at which a person is wrong about enough facts that they might reconsider their beliefs that are based on those wrong “facts”? Instead of dropping an f bomb and refusing to acknowledge the possibility of being wrong?
Young Dude: I can drop the f bomb if I want to I was even confer-sating with you anymore so I don’t know why the fuck you keep tagging me in your comment keep my name out of your mouth
And that’s where the “discussion” ended. Should I respond some more. 🙂 I really want to go back and refer to his comment about people needing to open their eyes and suggest that he is the one with his eyes closed.
This is what drives me crazy about Trump supporters — their completely reliance on alternative facts and fake news to drive their beliefs. And their complete refusal to acknowledge that they could be wrong. Head meet sand. Head implant thyself in sand.
How is it remotely possible to address this kind of willful stupidity? How is it remotely possible to effectively respond to Trump when there are tens of millions of Americans like this?