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Thoughts on the Debate


At the suggestion of a follower, here are the thoughts I shared on Facebook during tonight’s Republican Presidential debate:

Thought #1: Why am I drawn to presidential debates like a moth to a flame, like a child to a candy bar … because it may be the only place where an evangelical Christian running for President can claim that the reason we must defeat Iran is because their faith is one that believes the end times will occur in their life time and that is a problem. Because you know, evangelicals certainly don’t believe that, right.

Well maybe not … I guess when it comes to a believe in the end times, it matters whether it is our belief or theirs.

“While only 36 percent of all Americans believe that the Bible is God’s Word and should be taken literally, 59 percent say they believe that events predicted in the Book of Revelation will come to pass. Almost one out of four Americans believes that 9/11 was predicted in the Bible, and nearly one in five believes that he or she will live long enough to see the end of the world. Even more significant for this study, over one-third of those Americans who support Israel report that they do so because they believe the Bible teaches that the Jews must possess their own country in the Holy Land before Jesus can return.”

Thought #2 — women are lucky. If you’re a man at an important event like a Presidential debate, you have to wear a suit — either black or extremely dark gray. But a woman? She gets to wear power blue!!!!

It’s gonna be a fun night. I’m settling in for the show.

Bush claims Trump wanted an Indian casino in Florida and Bush shut it down. Trump claims it’s not true. You decide … {and the post linked to this … http://www.indianz.com/IndianGaming/2015/09/02/donald-trump-tried-open-casino.asp%5D

Thought #4 (yeah, I know, I forgot to label Thought #3) … why are there no Democrat debates?

Thought #5 … damn, I keep forgetting what this thought is, so I’ll skip ahead to Thought #6 … no amount of beer can help me get through this thing. Oh wait, I remember thought #5 … there are far too many questions that revolve around things Trump has said. He may be the “front-runner” but I’d much rather see a debate involving the issues rather than seeing CNN try to turn this into a firing squad directed at Trump. As much as he offends me.

Thought #7 … given the state of the polls, why is it that the questioners and the candidates all frame their answers assuming that Hillary is the opponent?

Thought #8 … Christie just said “who will prosecute Hillary Clinton?” Isn’t the more appropriate question who will prosecute GWB and his cheerleader-in-chief, Dick Cheney, for the war crimes committed during their reign. My God, where’s the beer????

Thought #9 … Trump wants to be elected President and then he’ll educate himself about the issues?!?!?!?! Sounds good to me. I think I’ll go interview for a new job and tell the interviewer that I’ll educate myself about the position after they hire me.

Thought # 10 … this has been going on for almost two hours now. Isn’t there a time limit on this thing?!?!?!

Thought #11 … it’s raining, it’s pouring. Just thought I’d share that in drought stricken California … IT’s RAINING!!!!!!!!!!

Thought #12 … Jeb! says we shouldn’t have pulled out of Iraq. And now Carson piles on and says that the vacuum caused by our withdrawal created the environment for ISIS to flourish. Here’s the problem with both of them. It was GWB, Jeb!’s brother, who negotiated the agreement to withdraw American forces. And the deadline for that withdrawal could only be extended with an agreement between the U.S. and Iraqi governments. And what Obama insisted on for any extension was immunity for U.S. troops operating in Iraq — a concept I’m sure Republicans would insist on themselves — but the Iraqi government refused to agree to such a term. So, no extension, no U.S. troops. So, who was responsible for that? The President who negotiated the initial agreement? Or the President who asked for reasonable terms and without them decided to abide by the initial agreement.

Thought #13 … which of the candidates do you think follow-up the debate with a little pot-smoking? I’m thinking Carson and Walker are at the top of the list.

Thought #14 … Irene Marks Paxson just said “chocolate enema” to Jacob Paxson and claims that what she really said was “hot chocolate in a mug.”   [OK, that was a distraction going on in the house that took me away from the debate.]

Thought #15 … Irene Marks Paxson says I’m going to blow up Facebook. If I succeed, would any of you object?

Thought #16 … from Talking Points Memo: “9:06 PM: Good lord. Staffers just told me that this debate goes on for three hours.”

So, I’m not the only one.

Thought #17 … oh wait, a question about marijuana legalization. Asked to Paul. Why not ask Carson?????? Now, back to my original thought #17 … Christie claims he was appointed U.S. Attorney on September 10. This is the second debate in which he has made this claim. Only problem is that he wasn’t nominated for the position until December 2001 and didn’t take the position until January 2002. Why do they find it necessary to repeat these lies?

Thought #18 … the odd thing about libertarians like Rand Paul is how much they can sound like Democrats at times. There are far too many times when I hear Paul speak that I find myself agreeing with him.

Thought #19 … Fiorina, her personal story notwithstanding, makes no sense on drugs. The pot kids smoke today isn’t the same as pot people smoked 40 years ago? Really? And if unfortunate deaths caused by drug addiction are a problem, why aren’t we outlawing alcohol?

Thought #20 … Rubio says why have stronger gun laws since the criminals will just ignore them. So, why bother having any laws, because the criminals will just ignore them. That’s kind of what the definition of a criminal is. The reason we have laws is because of what they say about us as a society and as a people. Why have laws against murder and rape and fraud and burglary … the criminals just ignore them.

Thought #21 … Carson on vaccines … they are one of the consequences of big government. Sure. Trump on autism and vaccines … 25 years ago, there wasn’t autism (OK, I’m paraphrasing). Only problem is the biggest reason it wasn’t diagnosed as much back then is that the disorder wasn’t understood and far too many autistic children were misdiagnosed as mentally retarded or suffering from something else.

Thought #22 … ten minutes to go. I can do this.

Oh wait, there’s the post-debate spin where I find out who “won.” I don’t think I’ll be getting any sleep tonight. And, if I … oh wait a sec, the absolute best moment of this debate just occurred and it was a commercial. Against Michael Bloomberg. Who isn’t even an announced candidate for President and, as far as I know, hasn’t shown any interest in running (except that there are some who have suggested he should run to be a counter to Trump). But, we need a commercial during the debate telling us how horrible he would be as a candidate because he wants to take your soft drinks away from you and … drum roll, please … take your guns away from you. Yes, you guessed it, paid for by the National Rifle Association, which apparently has enough money to pay for an opposition ad for somebody who isn’t even running. Wow.

Thought #23 … Jeb! just said his Secret Service nickname should be Everready because it’s high energy. Only problem is I think he was thinking of Energizer … you know the Energizer bunny.

Thought #24 … in response to a question that requires them to compare themselves to Reagan’s legacy, Carson attacks “free phones.” Only problem is that the “free phone” program he attacked was initiated under … Ronald Reagan.

Thought #25 … with few exceptions, foreign policy to the Republican candidates means only one thing … military might, force, weapons, dominance and power. It is one of the fundamental reasons why I will always struggle with voting for the current Republican crop. Diplomacy, negotiation and partnership has achieved far more in this world than the use of force.

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There is so much more I could say, but I’ll leave it at that for now.  After all, there are still almost 14 months left until the election that actually matters.

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18 responses to “Thoughts on the Debate

  1. sknicholls September 16, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Thanks for the synopsis. I missed a few on FB when I went to soak in a lavender and Epsom’s salt bath.

  2. Amy Reese September 16, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    Thanks for this. Now I feel like I’ve watched it without any pain! Ha ha. And you made it. And it’s raining!!! or was?? I’m excited about that. #20 is sad. I mean you did a good job explaining, but just a sad reality. And what about #4? How come they’re aren’t any? Aren’t there are few others running besides Hillary?

  3. Kevin Brennan September 16, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    God, you’re a bold son of a gun, exposing yourself to that drivel! I’m sure I’d have put a plastic bag over my head inside of ten minutes.

    On the positive side, it’s RAINING!

  4. Carrie Rubin September 17, 2015 at 8:25 am

    I couldn’t stay away either. For three hours I watched that thing, first from my elliptical and then from my chair. I kept saying, “Why are you watching this? You can read about it tomorrow. Don’t you have a book waiting for you?” And yet there I stayed. Even through that horrible, horrible vaccine segment. Two physicians up there, and those were their responses? Ugh, the misinformation out there is so frustrating, and to see it perpetuated by doctors is even worse. And Trump’s comments about autism and vaccines? I threw up in my mouth a little.

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  6. Bruce Thiesen September 19, 2015 at 8:00 am

    Excellent post. Another unfortunate thing is that the big event lasted three hours but they really didn’g spend much time on the issues. We know that they will tear up anything Obama touched, but it’s still not clear what any of they would do if elected. Rand Paul starts to talk about policy and is then cut off. John Kasich tries to talk about governing and the moderator gets bored. Trump talks about vaccines and the licensed physician and talented surgeon who thinks we should elect him president won’t start talking with conviction and confidence about the one thing he may know with anything about. Pretty wacky and unfortunate waste.

    • kingmidget September 19, 2015 at 8:04 am

      Agreed. I was really disgusted with the questions, most of which were designed to provoke a fight rather than a discussion of issues. I’m waiting for the day when a debate involves the candidates asking each other questions and actually debating. These media driven debates are getting worse and worse. The interesting thing about the vaccine issue is that a neurosurgeon and eye surgeon may not be any more qualified to speak on the issue than you or I. And if they are more qualified, they certainly were unwilling to use those qualifications to speak intelligently on the issue. They still pandered.

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